{"id":538,"date":"2009-03-21T18:28:37","date_gmt":"2009-03-21T16:28:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.final-memory.org\/?p=538"},"modified":"2009-03-21T18:28:37","modified_gmt":"2009-03-21T16:28:37","slug":"noch-ein-grund-paypal-nicht-zu-benutzen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.final-memory.org\/?p=538","title":{"rendered":"Noch ein Grund, Paypal nicht zu benutzen"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Auf Atari-Forum gab es gutes <a href=\"http:\/\/www.atari-forum.com\/viewtopic.php?f=15&amp;t=15657&amp;start=45&amp;st=0&amp;sk=t&amp;sd=a\" target=\"_blank\">Feedback zur UltraSatan<\/a>, dem Nachfolger der Satandisk. Das Ger\u00e4t soll nach Zahlungseingang f\u00fcr alle, die auch bezahlt haben, produziert werden. Jetzt kommt aber der Haken, Paypal macht Stunk, wenn die Leute angeblich nach ein paar Tagen ihre Ware nicht bekommen haben.\u00a0 Ich zitiere einfach mal die Email von Mikro, die wohl an alle ging, die mit Paypal bezahlt haben:<\/p>\n<pre>Hello everybody,\r\nas I promised, here are some news regarding the\r\nblocked paypal accounts. After many emails, automated responses and\r\nfighting their stupid rules all I can do is to ... refund all the money\r\nfrom paypal accounts to you.\r\n\r\nNo kidding, my options were stripped to two alternatives (by paypal staff):\r\n\r\n1. Refund all money.\r\n\r\n2.\r\nNot to refund money but I have to keep them on paypal for 180 days.\r\nSince I *need* that money for manufacturing, it's nearly the same as\r\noption 1 because these 180 days are meant as the time period in which I\r\nhave to manufacture &amp; ship my \"products\".\r\n\r\nIf you're curious\r\nwhy all this hassle now and not with SatanDisks or P2AM -- I have no\r\nidea. Maybe it all started with that strange unauthorized payment I\r\nreceived, they noticed two accounts, quite a money on them, my\r\n\"strange\" answers about not being possible to show them some shipping\r\ndocuments and things got pretty fast movement. The basic problem is the\r\npaypal guaranties buyers (i.e. you) some protection -- you can made a\r\nclaim to seller when the stuff you have paid for (via paypal) is not\r\nshipped. For me it means I have to ship max. 7 days after I receive a\r\npayment so there's no way out, I tried very hard to convince them,\r\nreally.\r\n\r\nI'm out of ideas how to solve it in another way. Maybe\r\nif you're from United States, you could contact their HQ by phone and\r\nask some real person about some advice \/ exception \/ miracle; email\r\ncommunication is way to hell, I was mailing with different person\r\neverytime and they don't seem to be interested in fact all of you agree\r\nwith such schedule conditions at all.\r\n\r\nSo, what it does mean for you \/ us:\r\n\r\n-\r\nif you have paid by another method (bank, moneybookers, cash),\r\neverything is OK, your money are received \/ noted and you don't need to\r\ndo anything\r\n\r\n- if you have paid by paypal (either by credit card\r\nor by paypal), I'll wait until April the 1st (for some miracle\r\nicon_winking.gif and then I instruct paypal guys to do a mass refund\r\nall payments which arrived since March 1st\r\n\r\n- it's clear payment\r\nphase must be extended, you'll need to think about another way to send\r\na payment (moneybookers.com seems to be most appropriate)\r\n\r\nSo\r\nthat's it. If you can help me in any way, feel free to do so because I\r\ntried everything in my power, emailing with paypal staff is no way. And\r\nyes, I'm aware how are you pissed off, believe me, it's not a half as I\r\nam.\r\n\r\nSad regards,\r\n\r\nMiro Kropacek aka MiKRO<\/pre>\n<p>Nachdem ich das gelesen hatte, wusste ich, ich habe nie etwas falsch gemacht. N\u00e4mlich mit der Ablehnung, Paypal zu verwenden.<\/p>\n<p>Danke, auf so einen Humbug habe ich keine Lust! <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lmbbox_smileys_img\" src=\"http:\/\/www.final-memory.org\/wp-content\/plugins\/lmbbox-smileys\/smileys\/tb\/mellow.gif\" alt=\":|\" \/><\/p>\n<div id=\"facebook_like\"><iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/plugins\/like.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.final-memory.org%2F%3Fp%3D538&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=500&amp;action=like&amp;font=segoe+ui&amp;colorscheme=light&amp;height=80\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"border:none; overflow:hidden; width:500px; height:80px;\" allowTransparency=\"true\"><\/iframe><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Auf Atari-Forum gab es gutes Feedback zur UltraSatan, dem Nachfolger der Satandisk. Das Ger\u00e4t soll nach Zahlungseingang f\u00fcr alle, die auch bezahlt haben, produziert werden. Jetzt kommt aber der Haken, Paypal macht Stunk, wenn die Leute angeblich nach ein paar Tagen ihre Ware nicht bekommen haben.\u00a0 Ich zitiere einfach mal die Email von Mikro, die &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.final-memory.org\/?p=538\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Noch ein Grund, Paypal nicht zu benutzen&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[12,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-538","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-atari-st","category-web"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.final-memory.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/538","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.final-memory.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.final-memory.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.final-memory.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.final-memory.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=538"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.final-memory.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/538\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":539,"href":"https:\/\/www.final-memory.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/538\/revisions\/539"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.final-memory.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=538"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.final-memory.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=538"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.final-memory.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=538"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}